all in youur head or bed

Well today on Hecate is an article about the ex-members of exodus that gave an apology to gay persons for belonging to a organization that believes you can pray away Sexual Orientation...But america is a strange country they believe one a can pray away Addiction and send addicts to 12-step programs and a then disappointed when only .08 of these people are cured or control the illness. Americans love to exorcise the mentally ill and then are surprised when not Jesus, but anti-psychotics ten years later down the line cure and control the problem the only demon there was the one called Bio-chemical defiency, oh my what is the Aramaic name for that.

IN america there is a belief that if it is strange or percieved as immoral it is done completely at the will of the person doing the behavior....Why because self Matyrdom is a great love of americans...I could eat that hamburger and be fat, but I have discipline, poor me, evil fat people... I could be gay but I like to stup women, evil bitches, evil gay men..For being a country that is supposed to be so noble and so generous, we really have little true compassion for others and since it is de riguer to be racist or anti-semetic: homophobia, sexism and fatism is now acceptable to preach and practice....even in pagan podiums..the idea that a woman might want to be treated as human being and might not want to practice malnutrition as a way life, to accomodate some men and thin women thus allow them to feel validated, or a women or man not want to stup each other is so radical it must be stomped out with shame, ridicule and law> one wonders exactly what Freudian horrors lie under the subconscious of mainstream america OHH to be the forensic psychoanalyst that studies early 21st century america what a fetid core they will digging up to scruntinize...

Low down and lido

All New-Agers All Pagans All Buddhists...
Christians believe there is only one way to heaven Through christ..One way to achieve salvation and redemption through Christ to be called a Christian one must believe that...The people running the Christian Churchs all believe this or whyforeall would they be sending Missionaries to Hot Humid places but to make more christians not for the Missionaries health and relaxation... People who do not believe this are apostate and disliked and feared by church hierarchy...So liberal Christian support corrupt entities keeping their mouths shut and their wallets open..ANd those running church cynically throw them a Ecumenical bone once in a while especially during Holocaust memorial services (because we pagans caused the event, the new Spin, no need to beg as much when apologizing)...Much breast beating bonding with Jewish Bethren and pointing the blame elsewhere.

There are no liberal christian churches except for Quakers and Unitarian Christians not even 15%of the christian community are these groups..

What is happening to a political Pagan in Maine Rita is happening with tacit approval of the christian community I doubt the political entities of the christian church are crying out at the abuse of a Pagan by one of their orgs..There may be good people who called themselves christian that are horrified, but ARE most christians really that horrified??? They abruptly stopped donating money to the Kennebec democratic Commitee when it was learned they were run by a Pagan...How much is this wing nut and how much is it that christian community stands by its bigoted and intolerant people and organizations

REbellious or growing up

I read an article in the new herald of a christian sect I sometimes read what they are saying just to touch and know what is going on with the dark side...A little bit of yoda exercising....There is a trend among so-called christian intellectuals and pseudo-liberals to tell pagans and others and also imply that we Pagans are middle class spiritual adoloescences futily rebelling against the maturity and wisdom of the church..

I see it another way I am really not rebelling but growing up... The old fairy-tale and hat tricks no longer sell...Why does god hate women?? The answer because of EVe, is no longer acceptable...Why is my buddhist grandmother's soul going to hell?? pray she finds jesus is not acceptable...No pagans are not rebelling they have seen the light and are growing up

BLESSED BE
Merrie part from the hinterlands....

Daddy Dearest gave me his ring

Once again stories about Purity Balls are showing up in my environment..I have a big problem with this new custom that the fundies want society to embrace...The Idea that Purity can be coerced in teenage girls in pretend pseudo-incetous environment and bribing the girl with gold rings and princess ball gowns. At a time when these girls should going to proms with young men and learning how communicate with the male sex... these girls are dancing the night away with daddy and get pinned to daddy dearest....But seeing where this is coming from I am not very surprised at the emotional incest being perpetrated with these girls and their fathers.

IN the mid- 80's I was in the recovery movement in Los Angeles and I went to ACA meetings...ACA=Adult Children of Alcoholics or really any dysfunctional family would do. I learned there that the people that quoted the saying put the fun in dysfuntional were Asinine morons in denial or looking for attention...I really became grateful for the fact the whatever excess my family had and childhood abuse I suffered it was much smaller than the burden life had put on other poor souls..There in those meetings many dealt with child sexual abuse and many came from very religious families but in Los Angeles the amount of people suffering was a moderate minority of people..

I moved to the bible belt in the mid-nineties and it did not matter what recovery group I was in there was many people mostly women who qualified to call themselves incest survivors or survivor of childhood sexual abuse....There was no ACA to help them deal...But plenty of Christian Therapists to make certain they were sedated enough and remain christian enough for the Bible Belt....Alot of these women listening to their stories one could find that church was always in the background of the incidents...Many of the perpetrators were in the same church or religion and the religion nearly always denigrated women and viewed them as handmaiden to men....All were terrified to speak up when young because they were afraid that family and church would see them as unpure(that they had commited an sin that needed to be kept quiet to protect the family)...Now these young girls the inheritors of the mantle of handmaiden are being exhorted and bribed with a great deal of money to stay pure and never forget their first love DAddy...The problem is what happens to the girl that does not pass the purity test. What are her psychological problems in the future...Or do fundementalists just want the hymen intact..Another funny thing when I see the pictures of praticipants of these events they tend to be uber-white blond girl with hollywood thin bodies in white ball gowns...It is as though there is a tacit agreement amongst the fathers that fat girls do not count and those daughters can stay at home because the fat has nuetered them sexually....Are fundamentalists really that vain and stupid or maybe they did not think anyone would notice.

Oh well merrie part from the provinces

Fat of the Land

the American Sexuality Magazine has a Article about Women and their feelings of vulnerability in the public place...I need to say that a great number of women deal with the vulnerability with one quick and easy way weight gain. I have done it this way and I have seen many women Molested in childhood or raped as young adult deal with it as weight gain.. I have always wonder if the hatred and contempt that fat people generate in their thin counterparts due more to envy by thin people than anything else. I know from being a thin person and hearing other thin women state that the fear less for the safety of fat friends than thin ones in things like waiting for them enter there houses safely after dropping them off. I see this envy in modern fashion mag when an socially conscious editor brings in a story about Fatism(Yes the discrimination of fat people) it is innudated with letters stating that fat people need to grow up and lose weight..Is the need to be vicious to fat people because we can no longer can be openly mean to someones race or sex or sexual orientation and still be thought of as a thinking person...or is it that being thin is a burden and hard work and can place one in danger from violent sexual perverts..And it disgusts us that we cannot eat and are in danger..and push come to shove are thin people really that healthy especially with all that smoking..These little thoughts percuolate in the thin..leading to hostility and matyrdom of the slender..

oh well merrie part from the hinterlands...

Oh the Shame of iT!!!!!!!!

Well today I was busy matting a large quantity of prints and packaging them for sale ... so when I finished with the computer and the printer I went downstairs to assemble them while listening to the Television..It was a sad night on the dish...I have a weakness I like true crime shows it comes from my childhood my father was addicted to True Detective Story magazines and I got hooked at an early age.. It got to the point were the liquor store guy would see me coming to buy soda pop and he would have the new mags laid out ...of course my father padded my allowance in case I found a mag he did not pick up it was a win win situation..

For years now I troll the channels looking for shows that I never seen before there aint that many out there....But I am an optimist when it comes to tv I grew up with 7 channels as a child so tv.. now days is bountiful and thank Goddess documentaries are popular nowdays..Unfortunately the court tv was all reality shows today and not any cases when I was watching..

So I put it on Nancy Grace and yes she does care about the victims but I know why she is not a prosecutor anymore She has no objectivity...Innocent before the law until proven guilty is a concept that she failed to learn in law school watching her makes you glad that real witch hunting is a dead sport nowdays unfortunatley Nancy's show proves that metaphorical use of the witch hunt in real life is alive and well...

I learned watching court tv is that the old Russian proverb Never marry a Deacon or a priests son is correct...If I had a nickel for good church going women who gets rubbed out by her husband I would have a Mutual fund acct by now.... If I had a nickel for how many good church going people who go on to massacre small town loads of relatives and friends before a savvy detective looked beyond the facade of respectability I would have a sizeable IRA going...

I learned if you are a Goth, vamp, pagan or have couple of Dion Fortune books in your library and the police show up on your doorstep you might as well give away your belongings because your ass is heading to death row with no get out of jail card even if you find Yahweh in the ninth hour..these are the lessons one learns from true crime literature in it all the victims go to sunday school and If a pagan does the crime its the religion of polytheism that is at fault and if a Monotheist does it might be Satan..Unless you are muslim all bets are off on them..

Paris Hilton is the fourth Sign of the Apocalypse at least that is how conservative pundits are acting or may be she is the Anti-christette...Liberal pundits are all clicking their tongue like a bunch of old Marxist Grandmothers and pretending to be shocked and horrified...A female Celeb goes to jail for a few days For sassing a judge and it is the decline of the western civilization. While male celebs have declared open season on their wives and people shrug their shoulders, Oh well. Dui checks Spousal murder... Paris is the villian not OJ, Barretta or Spector.. She is the reason we are decadent and deserve end times...Yeah Like all this moral indignation about Paris As IF any of the people screaming bloody murder at this event would not if they were in Paris's shoes call in all debts and find A way out of jail..Yeah Little Princess Hasselback like your ass wouldn't be at the phone calling abc and Barbara the minute you hit the station..America Grow up A woman in Northern California was Gang RAped with Three witnesses willing no demanding to give statements and it is not going to be even investigated...Paris is not the Problem it is a country in which Crime against women are viewed as inconsequential and Female delinquencies recieve outrageous attention worthy of gang rapes or sadistic murders... Attention that most rapes and murder do not receive because the victims are women..

Oh Gee maids

I have been reading the blog Hecate and I love it because I always am forced to think when I read it.. one of the entries was about Womb envy and a blog written by Josh Whedon on the Stoning of a Woman in a part of the world that still loves to publicly practice virulent Woman Hatred/// Unlike other parts of the world that like to practice it privately. Since women do have some financial clout in these areas and stoning them to death is contraindicative to a healthy economy and consumptive spending.... A dead and bleeding woman is unable to buy a Five thousand dollars purse..Hecate pointed out the frustration men have at womens power to procreate and I agree that it is a main component of misogny but in a world becoming rapidly overpopuplated I see womb envy as less of a driving component to misogny...I see what Socrates pointed out in ancient times that without misogny and the denigration of women other societial institution such as slavery and racism would not exist...

IN teaching men to view the people most close to them Mother, Wives and sister as other and less than it teaches men to view other men as other and less than.. ALLowing Class structure to form, ethnocentrism and eventually enslavement of other men...For the enslavement of mothers, wives and sisters allow men to easily enslave themselves and allow them to become tools of those in political class system.

But the enslavement of women allows another tool of the elite it works as a safety valve it allows the disenfranchised male and the enslaved male a servant...As a women you are always servant or Handmaiden.. But even a male slave can have a woman to push around..even the lowest male on the totem pole is still one up on a women...Mysogny would not be so enshrined in human kind if it only answered males envy of procreation more than that it allows them to feel superior at least in one area in life..in Mysogny any woman can have a child it takes a penis to be a man.

bye bye

Well good ole Jerry is gone...I really am keeping away for the whole news about him..I do not believe just because you die automatically we forget immeadiately what an ass you were..Rehabilitation of a person reputation and character by death smacks of hypocrisy by the rehabilitators and really does not do the dead any goood they are dead , WHo cares? When my husband told me Falwell was dead I immeadiately told him, I do not want to enjoy this event... I have purposely kept my mind on not celebrating or wish any dire underworld event occur to the man, but I can see why others would enjoy celebrating..the man was an ass in biblical proportions in believing and saying Cruel demeaning and Hateful things about others..In turn others should feel the right to do the same to him especially those he speciously attacked...After crowing at REagan's death I am purposely keeping quiet about Falwell's.. IT is not conducive to raising good energy to gloat and I have been doing energy work..

nattering and ranting and blessings

Yesterday a fashion Mag entered my possession the mail person brought it and today I went on a Marie Claire binge as I had not read any of them for 3months..It is a good mag and tries hard to be politically savvy. Unfortuantely amongst the writers is a faint whiff of contempt for feminism while trying at heart to be feminist in helping to better the women's lot in life around the world..This is the conundrum, the last thing women want is to be tarred with the any hint of feminism... It is like the women who want equal protection in the work place but politically distance themselves from the clear-eyed people trying to achieve it ... They want the benefits of feminism but they do not want the ridicule that comes with being a feminist.(abit chicken shit of mine and the next generation). It is as though we fear that good-looking and charming sexist will not want to be with us If we show some back bone and political radicalness..

I cannot chastize without admitting during the 80's I back down from feminism and sucked in my gut and bit my tongue and married a Charming sexist..It got after 5 years, me being kicked out and on my parents doorstep...Of course in therapy for being a recalcitrant woman because that is what we do to troublesome women. They are sent to therapist or 12-steps...What I needed was consciousness raising exactly what poor Britney Spears and dear Lindsey LOhan need...

A little black belt feminism goes along way in 90's rereading Germaine Greer, Simone,BrownMiller and the modern Backlash. These Women Invigorated me and imaginary addictions disappeared and happy fatness occured..for the first time in ten years I went to a restaurant did not eat rabbit food. Yes immersion into Black belt feminism worked miracles that our father or the serenity prayer could never achieve it was salvation through activism and spirituality became clean like a diamond sutra for women: feminism and Yes Goddess Worship, because If you cannot worship OUR Goddess Or see the Divine Feminine then it dose not matter what your liberal ecumenical creds are you are still a conservative women because FEMALE DIVINITY IS SO IMPOSSIBLE YOU CANNOT EVEN SAY THE PRONOUN SHE IN CONNECTION WITH GOD OR FEAR TO SAY IT..you are not superior in calling God He because God is sexless you are too afraid to go among people and say it..SHE 3 letters that you cannot say because of male conditioning given you disgust for femaleness equating it with bestiality, unholiness and thus whenever you hear someone say She you feel a need belittle them by implying they are nitpicking when they performing an act of courage..

In movies 13 Warrrior to Gaudi Afternoon Goddess worshipper are demonized as horrors or ridiculed as hypocrtical leeches by real working lapsed catholic intellectual women...THat are too afraid to tell the church to go fuck off..It is really enraging as well as disheartening and depressing to go to a movie Start to Enjoying it and Discover it is really an exercise in Lynching Goddess spirituality, idealogy and Goddess worshippers...Masquerading as a adventure or a comedy but hiding the message disdain to women and men who actually view the feminine as holy.

But I will look at the bright side If we must be demonized or ridiculed then Goddess resonants in the world...Where She has kept quiet now She speaks..The Seventh age is over And Mother is back, pushing into the back ground a shame faced Son...Goddess is back...Goddess bless.

picture by Mark ATwood = Pele Rising

Merrie part from the Hinterlands............

Child Day stump

Today is Mother's Day and to the unfertile a problematic day..I could look at this day in two ways misanthropically or spiritually.>>I did not realize I had a choice..But in fact I can hate mothers day sorrowfully or cantakerously or view it as a day to celebrate DM the Great Mother the guiding intellegence of the universe...Thinking about it further I can do all three all day...I am not a person that tends to be impressed the title mother...Having been mothered badly as a child and viewing bad parenting as a constant in reality around me... I am not impressed by the title mother or father and do not fall to the ground in awe the few times that they get things right with their children...I do love children and believe that they need to be worshipped... The poor things did not have a choice in the families they are in, Tibetan Book of the DEAd not withstanding....Of course mother's and father's love to complain about the burden of childrearing in the world and then vote in anti-child government administration run by people whose wives most probably allowed a nanny to raise the child...We need a child day holiday without the religious bells and whistles something that honors all the love that children give their parents until they realise it is not the they(child) that the parents love but the fantasy child that they(the parents) are molding into existence...

gravy boat is broken,, OH dear,,

Conservative has suggested a military coup is the answer...Having created and promoted the most corrupt administration since the Teapot Dome scandal...Unable to admit that they were wrong and that conservatism has become the political equivalent of a country club for corporate hacks and strong arm men...The belief now is that democracy is the problem and that the freedom that the Fundie Muslim do not want is the progenitor of the whole mess..The so-called freedom they used to flatter us into war...Now it has outlived its usefullness and a military coup is the answer....

Oh dear!!! unable to say we made a mistake,, we conservatives have allowed ourselves to be corrupted by absolute power, The siren call to them is more power and illegally if possible... why I wonder is the future so bleak to them? The thought that they screwed up so bad and showed how arrogant and uneducated in the simple things like science, biology and sociology. That they know it will be incredibly hard to fudge the election results this time..Is there, in them a fear that they and their corporations will have to pay the same percentage of tax that a middle class person must or worst a poor person in the same ratio of tax per income...Or horrors of horror be made to clean up after themselves like recalcitrant Adolescents...

Are they afraid that the gravy train has left the tracks and they are standing on the platform morosely watching it leave the station...Yes the gravy train has left and I hope it transforms into the peace train and segues into the freedom train..

Yeah humble pie don't taste so good, so much so, that treason is perferable...

Merrie part from the Hinterlands.

oh the humanity

I really getting irritated at human beings specism as a PETA friend calls it... I am listening to a movie downstairs as I roam the internet...Once again I hear How great we are because we are the only species who know that we die..Last time I talked to my dog or cat or snake I did not have philosophical conversation with them...It went more along the lines of "Dammit couldn't you wait till I let you out" or "What you want to eat again"...The language barrier made it impossible to discuss the futility and the fatality of life and so that and any thealogical discussions were impossible so I don't know how much they comprehend...But the Human need to assume that they are so much better than the animal world constantly smacks of insecurity as any misanthrope like Swift would point out maybe we are not the apex of the animal kingdom but the horses behind..

merrie part from the hinterlands

Pentacle follies

well the pentacle is accepted and of course the mundanes and the unimaginative have begun beating their drums and circling the wagons..or is the pagans beating the drums.. of course to the fundies it is a sign of the apocalypse since nothing about the VA is found in the bible they are running to their worn books of the Left Behind series to find out what this means in the grand scheme of apacolypto..The NY Post finds the Idea of Pagans dying for their country hilarious and showed a tongue and cheek look at a VA headstone..Luckily Pagans are a relatively peaceful lot compared to Mono's we do not recommend that said tongue be torn out or the cheek branded as some religions would of reacted at this kind of insult in the past or right now...The only fatwa we believe in is the fat in the suet of our figgy puddding and usually that is veggie fat..So Pagans should not think this is the end of it because in ten years in Podunk, Bible belt some pagan is going to need to sue a vet cemetary to get said Pentacle because stonewalling by some fundie monomaniacal beureuacrat....Unless a future republican congress makes it against the law to sue against such stonewalling ...The VA is a machiavellian org and just because they say they will don't mean they will...

peace

Sometimes something happens that numbs you and you cannot think about your daily irritations and that sorrow makes one let go of daily concerns. Whenever Alot of people die who were doing nothing but what they were supposed to be doing good and productive things...It's shocking and knocks one off their equilibrium...I hope that the grieving people find a measure of serenity on the rest of their paths I hope that the dead find peace...

one little piggy, two little piggy, three ect.

Well people are kvetching about fundie orgs that are aligning themselves with neo-nazi scientists like Mr. Cameron and his org...But instead of jews, gypsies,the mentally ill, physical disabled and gay people being lumped together as early twentieth century eugenics proponents did...They are begining with gays they are starting small and then will build up to final crescendo a purging of all the ungodly as identified to them by god. Read, Left Behind, if you wish to know if you are on the list or study the 20th Century Eugenics Movement. A movement that was invented at the turn of the century by the doctor brother of a fundementalist preacher and spread across the prairie by eugenic faires/revival meeting...Later on brought to German scientists by German American Doctor were it was married with Psuedo-scientific Antropological theory to form Nazi Doctrine... So the marriage of Fundies with questionable scientific theory is not new or a fad or them being mislead is a marriage going back to the turn of the century... the last century

Merry Part from the weather confused Hinterlands.....

Rascally Rabbits

Well Easter is over with a pleasant family meal and no talk of religion at it..Thank Goddess Quiet and the food was delicious my sister-in-laws cooking has improved a great deal since she started cooking diabetic...My downstairs is almost finished my obsessively watching Clean House and Niecy Nash has paid off I have a kitchen worthy of a small magazine spread now when I am depressed I just go to the kitchen look at it and sigh the sigh of a contented amatuer interior designer...Of course being the large and overfed children at heart that my husband and I are we have plastered fat and jolly dragons on the wall above the sink and stove using the excuse that the dragons will protect the paint job from splatters of grease and dirty dish water...Something a Style mavens would shudder at...But I believe any excuse to decorate with a Fairy or dragon or preferably both is a good excuse.

So reading blogs and listening to fundamentally bent acquaintances I get the feeling that people of the fundie persuasion wish to exorcise the ghost of pagan past from Christmas and now Easter...Unfortunately amongst the english that was tried by the Calvinists called puritans or roundheads...But they did not call it the pagan influence it was a push to get rid of popery and popish(catholic) influence in the Church of England....A civil war occurred in which many noble things were espoused and then religious fanatics took over england and the Massachusettes colony..the good old pilgrims made any partying a illegal...Any celebration of Christmas or Easter left one open to a large fine or the stock depending on your social class....This lasted about twenty years in which all competing forms of Christianity to the Calvinist were outlawed and many of other sects especially the Irish Catholics died in inhumane Pogroms by the puritans...

This ended with the death of the puritan leader Cromwell and led to the monarchy being restored and the English embarking on a twenty year party to celebrate the end of the reign of a christian version of the taliban...That is kind of like why I laugh when I hear so-called historians talk about the pilgrim coming up with the notion freedom of religion or democracy...Religious fundamentalists do not believe in freedom they do not trust it or want it...

Modern Democracy was born in the Age of REason by Philosphers and social scientists. It was not fundamentalist christian, political or social conservatives who created created modern democracy they were busy defending the divine right of kings and waging war between Protestants and Catholics...Suffrage for the common man and literacy for them also, was the provenance of the radical at that time...To say America is a Christian Nation is true alot of Americans are christian and most of the signer of the declaration of Independence were Christian If any were Atheists or agnostics is lost to history as that time being a vocal atheist meant that the crown could torture you, take away your property and burn you to death...much harsher fate than the mere hanging that signing the declaration would have brought them...There is a legit reason why atheists hate religion that goes beyond their belief in atheisms superiority...Atheist have always been tied on the stake next to the witch, case in point Italian Astronomer Bruno.

So to take to Heart the Easter Bunny survived the puritans and it will survive the fundies gunning for it the way Elmer chased Bugs all over the forest, she will just keep goin and goin like the Goddess.

False nostalgia and false paranoia

Well tomorrow is another holiday the one that most of the powers that be celebrate though how sincerely is only known betwixt them and their hairdresser the paraphrase the commercial..I always am in a befogged state of mind at times when new people come into my life or events occur I think are profound or of great import and I always wonder what is the meaning of this, What is it Goddess is showing me? I find that trying to tease out Her and the universes intent never works out a I find that the answer always unveils itself and rarely remains a mystery... It is usually a lesson plan for me and rarely a relevation of great import to humankind ...

Recently a russian artist came into my sphere of influence I wondered as I was trying to divest myself as much as I could of bad lingering russian bigotry and nationalism and also the religion...It worried me until I realized that what he was is a lesson in trust that I was right in certain beliefs and supposition I made about my European heritage and my mothers religion...It is always a relief to know you are on the right path in spiritual matters and not to linger in false nostalgia...

America is a strange country in matters of religion.... THey do not believe that there is religious discrimination here any more. Except among Conservatives that belief that christianity is being persecuted by secular Humanists...But ask them what a Secular humanist is and they have no definition beyond being in league with the devil...But then My definition on secular humanism is a bit fuzzy also.. Really it is not persecution that these people have an overiding sense of paranoia about. It is the fact that now days many people are not impressed by their religion or so-called piety and are not shy to tell them..."You obsessive compulsive about Jesus, I am not, get out of my face ." Is what a lot of these people are hearing and they do not like the fact that no one wants to kow-tow to them or move to the back of the ecumenical bus when they get on...

People who do face discrimination are usually viewed as deserving it like the way rape victims are made to feel...Somehow because the victim does not belong to a religion that resembles a mainstream religion they are in a cult and thus deserving of bad treatment<>And that is the gist of all religious discrimnation make life so hard that they will convert to the dominant religion if not that at least something related to it......

Merry Part from the Hinterlands

monagamy and the real scoop

I come to speak of the dirty little secret that mona-gamous family hides... the marriage that should not have happened or needed to be buried before the tots were two....a mona-gamous marriage that keeps on going like an evil, demented and demonic energizer-bunny that keeps on going and in the end nearly consumes the children they are staying together for...IT teaches good boys and girl to hate mom because she is a hysteric and hate dad because he abuses himself and mom... Its the one where mom is asking the good REverand father for advice and all he has to say stay together you made your bed because divorce stats look bad on his resumee. Yeah Garrison Kellior tell us the great fable about monogamy and make sure to hide the dirty secret...Maybe the Great Monogamists children are always divorcing is because of the example at home and not the evil secular society...

There are many children in the world and in this country that need protecting but not from evil hordes of gay people but the people caring for them abusive parents, foster parents, charities and abusive religious sects and et.al...Goddess knows a sane and rational Lesbian or Homosexual would be a salvation to these children... We are acting as though in this country no child goes to sleep hungry or is not abused, that is what nice well-fed white men never on the poverty level believe...There are children out there with no hope, a decent gay couple or single gay person could save the life of one desperate child,,, but heaven forbid we might upset the mono-maniacs, It might cause dancing in a new generation, Heaven forbid.....

Gay people make great parents I know many and not just last ditch parents if Americans do not accept the fact Moral American Devolutionists are irrational bordering on illness we will lose more than just gay rights we will lose a generation and others to come..

mistake misled misuse and mass distraction

Well male liberals are running around kvetching about Hillary and the words mistake and mislead. They are throwing around bullshit moral self-righteousness as though the primary is rose garden in bad need of fertilizing...Hillary said that she was mislead into making the wrong decision concerning the vote in the senate about Iraq...Like any good bearueacrat she is telling us with the word mislead that the decision was a wrong one. That being informed by the Bush administration with faulty and false info led to that descision being made... These male candidates are running around taking the moral high ground in phony semantics debate that has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with the male habit of nitpicking any work a woman does...Sorry, men saying "you made a mistake" is not the high threshold of ethical and moral statements or behavior you believe it is.....Every day women are told by men they make a mistake. Every thing from getting the secretary pregnant was a mistake to leaving the toilet seat up. Rarely do men wonder why they made the mistake it just happened....We are not impressed...Men believe that saying, "I made a mistake" and prefaced with, "I am sorry", clears everything up... It really never does address the problem, "I made a mistake", can mean "It did not work out oops"... It is as if the Iraq war is a freeway and these men took the wrong exit AND this how much they thought about it or are going to admit was going on when they voted...Because these men think that worse thing they can do is admit that they made mistake. They would never cop to the worst truth that they were lied to, pressured to and therefore hoodwinked into voting yes...Of all of them, Hillary is the most honest because women learn early on if they do not assess the situation find out what went wrong and explain the reasoning behind the wrong decision they are not employed very long....Every women has heard,"what was going on in your head", constantly since childhood. That it is a MANTRA for a parent to say it...And women know that the person asking, is not saying it to exercise their lungs and vocal cords..SAying "I made a mistake" not a righteous declaration. Saying"I was mislead' is A TRUTHFUL EXPLANTION...It shows that the decision to go to war was a serious one for Hillary and she is angry about the situation she was put in... Which bodes well for if she is elected she will angry enough to do something about the situation and it will be well thought out...Because she has discovered the problem in the decision and is not going to use false sentiment and hemming and hawing as a political affectation.

When a women says, I made a mistake, it is reacted with "How can that silly cow had done that.."

When a man says," I made a mistake", he is a big man for admiting it...

Had Hillary been the first candidate to say they had made a mistake then every male candidate would telling us he was mislead and showing us how it occured.

OLD BOYS NETWORK IS CLOSING RANKS with a large degree of hypocritical self-righteous smugness



But americans live on bullshit we hear from politicians, religious leaders and cultural icons day and night..

Hillary Bashin and male antics

Well the conservatives are creating a tempest in a teacup to effectively distract us from the fact that a plethora of conservative male candidates that cannot live up to so-called families values they espouse(they despouse the way others delouse)... all the the conservative male candidates are divorced except the one who belongs to a religion that teaches its girls and young women that they are property of a male and thus cannot own property and that the only way they can ascend to their heaven is if their husband after his death calls them to heaven by the woman's secret de-coder ring name to join them there...Thus assuring in their cosmology that a woman is at the same level of regard in heaven as a man's faithful hound dog(no wonder we are called bitches).

I am not against divorce. I am an ex-divorcee with a successful second marriage. Having had an abusive first marriage and watching the antics as a child of two people who could not successfully live together but stayed together for the sake of the children and family values(thanks for the eternal guilt).. I am not against divorce but I am against people who decry it when women do it to leave an abusive situation and ignore men who do so for political expediacy or am just tried of the bitch...It is a break down of the american family when a female does it or a disenfranchised male but if you are a power broker you can stand on the podium and make speeches to overly religious people and conservatives pandering their simplistic view of complex personal relationships and how to fix them...People can fix themselves, they do not need laws passed that are slick ways to give excessively religious and conservative control freaks the fix they need. The power to stick their pruient noses in other people business.

Hillary spoke with a southern accent quick, ready the firing squad . Let's get Jude Law and every other english actor that spoke with an overblown southern accent in overacted tawdry soap operas that effectively minimize ante-bellum racism and excuse the fact that they thought it was cute to own human being. Janet, Hillary, Nicole do wish a last smoke.....

I am sorry southern conservatives. I know that Fox news is trying to make you out as ego-centric and meglomaniacal narcissists, but Hillary is not a racist..I know asians that raised in the south speak with a southern accent, and blacks and latino and heaven forbid, Catholics a whole other race of persons.. Southern twang is a regional accent not a enthic dialect or race based slang... If you are so sensitive and have internalized the bigot view that a southern twang makes you an uneducated boob and the only reason a northerner would speak with one is to insult you then you are the bigot that is ashamed your own regional unigueness.. Hillary used it to show she admires you and that she not ashamed to be lumped in with southerners..That she was proud of the fact that she was the wife of a southern Governor... If that bothers you then you are the racist and regionalist and secretly ashamed of your culture...Let call it what it is Fox News. The fact is that Fox News cannot imagine someone wanting to bond in solidarity with southerners, politically, morally, socially or culturally. To Fox News the Southern culture is one of big bellied racists and shrewish trailer park brides it is not the world of great American writers and innovative Scientists and inventors... The REGIONALISTS AND RACISTS ARE FOX NEWS NOT HILLARY...